Question Number: 35456

Law 10 - Determining the Outcome of a Match 4/18/2024

RE: Adult

John Hall of Dartford , Kent United Kingdom asks...

During the Aston Villa v Lille match last night the Aston Villa goalkeeper received a yellow card for time wasting during the initial 90 minutes. At penalty shootout at the end of the game he received a 2nd yellow card for provoking the card. He was allowed to remain on the pitch and subsequently saved the final penalty. Should he have left the pitch?

Answer provided by Referee Richard Dawson

Hi John,
I can certainly understand confusion among the fans! With the referee showing the yellow card at the KFTPM given the fact a yellow card was actually shown earlier in the match itself.

It might seem strange but technically the match play time has fully has expired!
KFTPM are considered SEPARATE from the match itself . This penalty kick is only a method to determine the outcome! Far better than flipping a coin or counting corner kicks. I was on teams that lost twice, once to each method back in the days past! Extra time & sudden death golden goals also used to decide matches . The issue was cards continued and tiredness played a huge roll in outcome creating injuries and cramps thus the KFTPM shootout seemed the best option.

No cautions in the match are carried forward into this part of the outcome.
It is the same in post match after play has concluded as it is in pre match, before the start of play! No cautions are recorded as match cautions they are worded as additional misconduct in the match reports. They likely count cumulatively for disciplinary processes, but I can not be sure, that is for the competition authorities to decide!

Apparently Cards are required to be shown in KFTPM and IF the player was to be cautioned and shown yellow a 2ND time during KFTPM he would be shown the red card and sent off!

A Player COULD be straight red carded and sent off at KFTPM but only if his behaviour was extreme VC. Again same for pre-match, if the conduct before the whistle to start is VC a player could also be sent off except the team is not shorted a player only 1 less player to be on the roster.
Cheers

Answer provided by Referee Joe McHugh

Hi John
This Law 10 changed in the 2020/21 season.

Law 10 now states that warnings and cautions issued to players and team officials during the match are NOT carried forward into the penalties.
Cautions and warnings issued during the match (including during extra time) are not carried forward because Kicks from the Penalty Mark are deemed not part of the match. A player who receives a yellow card during both the match and the KFTPM is not sent off.


The reason for this was that IFAB saw that some goalkeepers had been dismissed for encroachment in penalty kicks on a 2nd caution. That part of the Law was also changed in that the first encroachment is now a warning and only the 2nd and subsequent encroachments are cautioned.

Many saw the old law as *unfair* hence the change. I recall in a Youth U17 International game between The Netherlands and Ireland the Irish goalkeeper was sent off for a second caution having earlier got a card in normal time for delaying the restart of play. He encroached on the last penalty which he saved which was to continue the kicks. The law at the time was that cards carried forward into the kicks plus any encroachment resulting in a retake was a must caution. The referee had no choice but to send the goalkeeper off. That is no longer the case.
See 1.00 onwards
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L75LugM6IHA

Most in the game saw it as harsh hence in part it contributed to the law change. Now under the current Laws it would be a warning and a retake only. Only a repeat during the penalty shoot out would result in a caution. It would need a subsequent encroachment to get a red card.

In the Martinez incident the referee was 100% correct. The earlier caution in the game was NOT carried into the penalty shoot out so it was a first caution in KFTPM. A second caution in the penalties would have resulted in a red card.
That by the way applies to all players so if say a player is booked in the game for say dissent, reckless challenge etc that does not carry into the penalties.

IFAB has made many changes to the Laws over the last number of years and these changes have resulted in the need for subsequent changes to address unfairness or harshness or unintended consequences.
Many felt that the caution for encroachment on a penalty kick by a goalkeeper was necessary to keep goalkeepers on the goal line yet it had consequences when implemented by referees with 2nd cautions etc. Cue the change to a warning on the first occasion. The two feet on the line was also changed as many saw a goalkeeper needed to move one foot to have any chance of moving to make a save.